Coda 2: Reviewed

Coda 2: Reviewed

Well, it happened; Panic finally released the long-awaited version two of their popular code editor, Coda. But does it live up to the hype? Well, that depends on what type of coder you are. Read the full review after the jump!

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The Good

It's Beautiful

When Panic initially unveiled the tour video for their new editor, I was taken aback. The massive file icons only appeal to a very specific type of coder – and I'm not that person. I, as well as many others, found them to be considerably unattractive. Perhaps they'd be appealing, if you exclusively work on static designs, but as someone who stares at an image-less, black background for the better part of each day, these icons only take up space.

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Luckily, they can easily be reduced to simple text, at which point the editor becomes infinitely more attractive. The icons are a gimmick.

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Helpers

Clearly, Coda is playing to its core audience: PHP developers. While you can certainly code in any language, PHP receives the bells and whistles.

As a PHP developer myself, I won't deny that "WAT" is scattered throughout the language. Even after years and years, I still frequently refer to the PHP.net documentation to remember which order a function's parameters should be passed.

Do I set the haystack as the first or second parameter, when using stristr?

This is one area where Coda shines. It provides instant documentation in the sidebar as you type.

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What's unfortunate is that this feature is limited to, essentially, front-end developers: HTML, CSS, JavaScript, and PHP. Why?

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Nonetheless, it's a helpful resource, though I'll note that, despite the fact that Panic lists JavaScript as being supported, it only offers to link me to the book documentation. A bug perhaps?

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Clippings

Coda's native clippings feature has received a substantial upgrade as well. Rather than the awkward floating bar from Coda 1, the new version rests as its own panel in the sidebar.

Notable additions include multiple (tab separated) insertion points, and the ability to assign both tab triggers and keyboard shortcuts.

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Sites

The standard "Sites" layout is back in Coda 2, which allows you to assign either local or remote directories to one click icons. No notes here; it's helpful, and the new ability to group sites into “lists” (or categories) is very much welcomed.

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CSS Helpers

In Coda 1, the CSS GUI was available via its own tab, or panel; however, with this new version, it's baked into the editor. For instance, as you type background, the option to use a GUI to create a gradient will be provided, though I must admit that setting values and percentages wasn’t overly intuitive.

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Note: did you notice in the image above that Coda only adds a single Webkit prefix? Yeah, we'll cover that shortly! :/

This same functionality is available for other properties too, such as box-shadow and padding.

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Honestly, these aren't features that I'd ever imagine using; they'd only slow me down. But still, for newcomers, I'm sure they'll prove to be helpul.

Quick Open

It's nothing new, but, if you need to quickly switch between files, you can press Control + Q, and type in the name of the file. It's not nearly as fast (or responsive) as Sublime Text's implementation, but will get the job done.

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Built-In Transmit

The popular Transmit engine is essentially baked into the editor. This provides you with a full file browser for, not only your local files, but also through FTP, SFTP, WebDAV, and S3.

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This is a huge plus for some, though, for me, I don't remember the last time that I uploaded files to my server with (S)FTP. Still a nifty feature, though, and the ability to publish a project with a keystroke is handy!

Terminal

Introduced in the first release of Coda, the Terminal panel is back. If you’re not the type of coder who has Terminal open at all times, accessible through a keyboard shortcut, then this will be a welcomed feature.

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The Bad

Multiple Cursors

Really? No multiple cursor support? Coda provides a "block edit" functionality, but it's confusing, and not nearly as intuitive as Sublime Text's implementation.

In this editor's opinion, it was a massive mistake to not make multiple cursor support a top priority. I can't imagine using an editor that doesn't give me this ability.

Odd CSS Support

From a distance, Coda's CSS support appears to be fantastic. Auto-completion for the new CSS3 properties, a GUI for creating gradients and box-shadows, etc. What more could you want?

Well, yes that would be true, if those implementations were flawless – but they're not. For example, remember the nifty documentation functionality that I noted above?

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It's very helpful…and limiting at the same time. You might be surprised to find that, if I type the official transform property, nothing shows up in the sidebar (there's also no auto-completion for the property). The documentation only registers if I specificially use -webkit-transform. Yep, the official version doesn't work – and neither does -moz-transform (or any of the other versions, for that matter).

Oh, and as for Opera and Microsoft prefixes (-o and -ms, respectively), you can forget about it. Zero auto-completion support. They might as well not even exist.

Webkit Love Affair

There's no denying that Coda's Webkit-based support is fantastic. It makes sense; the live preview uses the Webkit engine, so they need to ensure that the gradients (and other CSS3 properties) that the GUI produces will render correctly.

But, particularly when considering the huge debates that have centered around CSS and Webkit in the last half year, Panic's decision to seemingly endorse Webkit-exclusive CSS3 properties is a terrible one. Why will it auto-complete -webkit-animation, but not any of the others (ms, o, moz)? Why does it render a Webkit gradient, but not for the other vendors?

When questioned (on Twitter), Panic noted that it's incredibly simple to manually add the other prefixes. True; no one is denying that. But why should we have to? Do it for us.

If convenience were the only downside, that would be one thing, but the problem is that their decision to only provide Webkit generation and auto-completion endorses the notion (especially for newcomers) that it's okay to tailor designs specifically for one engine. Note: a smattering of Mozilla prefixes are provided, but not nearly as many.

I Wish…

If, behind the scenes, Coda would maintain a list of every CSS3 property, along with its required prefixes, that would be huge. Don't make me memorize whether or not Microsoft now provides its own prefix for gradient support. Be a good role model, and do it for me. Sheesh, don't make me build a tool, like Prefixr, to get around this.

Git

Git integration in Coda 2 is certainly not a minus, but more of an "ehh." The previous version of Coda provided Subversion support (while the community moved to Git). So, sure, adding a UI for Git was a smart move.

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It very well might be helpful to those who aren't entirely comfortable in the Terminal, but, still, I wonder how many of these folks are truly using version control. Do they understand what a branch, stage, or commit is? My instinct is that, if you do, then you'll absolutely prefer to perform these sorts of commands in the Terminal – likely using your own custom aliases to speed things up.

Nonetheless, it's a feature that might be helpful to some – just not me.

Command Palette

Considering the fact that Sublime Text 2, in barely a year, has become the golden editor amongst web developers, you would think that Coda might adopt some of the most touted features in that editor.

Why isn't there a helpful command palette that allows me to specify which action to execute with text? I can't always remember the keyboard shortcut for creating a split; why can't I pull up the command palette, and type "split"?

At this point, I consider a command palette to be essential in my workflow, yet Coda is missing one entirely.

Installing Plugins

We're still in the early days of Coda 2; as such, there currently aren't any plugins available on Panic's website. Hopefully, once some are released, there will be an easy, Package-Control-esque method for installing them. Please don't make me manually download and install these.

In Sublime Text, if I want CoffeeScript syntax highlighting, I can literally have it in ten seconds, without leaving the editor. Will Coda provide this same convenience? My instincts point to "no," which is not a good sign. The success of an editor has more to do with the community’s involvement than anything else.

The success of an editor has more to do with the community’s involvement than anything else.

Vi-Mode Option

Remember when I noted that Coda was made for a very specific type of coder? Yeah, well that type of coder likely doesn't use Vim (or Git-based deployment). For me, though, it's the difference between using Coda and not. I'm heavily dependent upon these keyboard commands, but Coda has left me in the dark. Why? Sublime Text offers Vi (Vintage) support; even Chocolat does.

I'd imagine that, at some point in the near future, support will be provided through a plugin, but, nonetheless, when considering the resurgence of Vim in the last few years, shouldn’t support should be baked in as an option? Maybe so, maybe not; the truth is that the huge majority of Coda users have no interest in this feature, so I won’t knock Coda too much for this!

Only Four Color Schemes

I grant you that this is petty, but why does Coda only provide four color schemes for the editor? Why not offer a dozen or so? We coders love our themes, but will now have to resort to scouring the web for custom skins. Or, when considering the fact that Solarized is one of the most popular, cross-editor themes on the web, why not provide that as a built-in choice? Chocolat does.

Admittedly, things like this are small annoyances, but, still, they're just that… annoying.

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Update – here’s a plugin that provides lots of alternative color scheme options. Alternatively, refer here.

A Great Sidebar…But

Clearly, Panic spent a great deal of time on the new sidebar functionality. With all of these helpful features, though, why I am limited to just one view at a time? Maybe I want a file browser on top, and the documentation viewer below? It would be far more convenient if I could stack these panels.

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Configurability

Sublime Text is sometimes criticized because its configuration options page is essentially a JavaScript object.

The irony is that I consider this to be one of its best features! I have control over everything! Need to change the tab-width, font-size, or a keyboard shortcut? Easy – it takes five seconds. What about on a per-file basis? That’s doable too. With Coda, though, I virtually have no clue how to configure it to my preferences – beyond the basic settings that are provided in the Preferences pane.


Closing Thoughts

The updates aren’t indicative of today’s modern developer.

As I proof this article, I realize that it has come across as somewhat critical. The truth is that Coda 2 is a solid editor – much better than its predecessor. While it does have some bugs, it was just released. Give the amazing Panic team time to listen to community input and release updates/patches. And, certainly, missing functionality can often be provided, via plugins.

I'm only capable of reviewing an editor based upon on my own needs. Personally, I'm most concerned with speed, convenience, and Vi support. Instead of Panic focusing on what will make me more efficient at my job, it sort of feels as if they’ve tacked on a lot of eye candy that doesn’t necessarily help me much. The updates also aren’t indicative of today’s modern developer. Where is Less, HAML, or CoffeeScript syntax highlighting? So yes, it’s a solid editor, but, at the same time, it’s not one that was tailored for more serious developers.

When considering Coda's stand-out features:

  • File Icons - It’s a gimmick; do people really want massive file icons?
  • FTP Integration - Helpful, but in a modern world, where we deploy websites and applications with Git (whether to Heroku or PHPFog), I'll very rarely make use of it.
  • Built-in MySQL - Again, helpful, but you'll likely find yourself resorting to more powerful dedicated apps, such as Sequel Pro or Querious. It feels tacked on for eye candy.
  • Git Support - I'll stick with Terminal. You likely will too. (But hey, Coda has a built-in Terminal panel.)

I wish that they had instead focused more on speed – not necessarily the speed of the editor, but the speed of my workflow.

How can I accomplish my daily tasks more quickly?

From this perspective, Coda 2 doesn’t provide anything new.

While I've only had a day with Coda, I must admit that something feels a bit…off. It doesn't feel as intuitive as I would have expected from Panic. Frequently, I find myself confused over how to execute simple operations. "Oh, I have to double-click to open this file." There's also no denying that the following is initially very confusing:

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So we have a sidebar of files, then another panel in the middle for files, and then, lastly, remote files. This is what I was greeted to after opening Coda for the first time.

I've since learned that you have to get away from the notion that the traditional sidebar is specifically for displaying files. In the image above, it just happens to be set to the "Files" tab, which accounts for the doubled-files issue. Nonetheless, it took me a moment to come to grips with this.

Will I Switch to Coda 2?

There’s this part of me that wants to use Coda. It’s beautiful and feels modern. But, then again, the simple fact is that I’m far more efficient in Sublime Text 2. After years of waiting, I was hoping for more. Bells and whistles are great, but, when you get down to it, there’s nothing overly innovative here. But that’s just me; what do you think?

You might be wondering why I haven’t mentioned the new Air Preview feature. Well, I’d very much like to, but haven’t yet been able to get it to work. I’ll update this article once I do!

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  • http://2816monument.com Mark

    Well this is exciting! Too bad I’ve gotten so comfy with sublime text during the wait. Maybe it’s time to go back? We shall see…

    • http://www.apergies.gr Ioustinos

      Same case here!

    • Margalus

      Loving Sublime Text 2 too and i guess i’m NOT switching back to Coda.
      Sublime looks good, is lighter than Coda, it’s highly customizable(like Coda, i know) and it’s cross-platform which is one of the most important things a program should have nowadays in my opinion.

      I’ll check Coda 2 out but i’ll stick to Sublime Text 2 for sure!

  • Jamie Brittain

    Jeffrey, do you think you’ll be changing to Coda 2?

    • http://www.jeffrey-way.com Jeffrey Way
      Author

      I doubt it. I’m very dependent upon Vim (or Vi mode) these days, and I don’t think Coda provides support.

  • http://bloqhead.com Daryn St. Pierre

    This is awesome news but in the meantime, I’ve gotten really comfortable with my MacRabbit Espresso workflow. Coda needs to really impress me to win me back. I constantly jump between Espresso and TextMate.

  • http://www.macjunky.nl Kia

    AT LAST!!!!!Been waiting for this news for FAR too long now, and I don;t think I’m the only one!

  • http://loopinfinito.com.br Caio Gondim

    Does anyone knows if it supports custom bundles like in TextMate or Sublime Text?

  • http://www.entropydynamics.com Korky Kathman

    This was a long time coming. I used to like the previous version, but it had too many idiosyncrasies that drove me nuts. Anyone know how much they’ll charge to upgrade? Hopefully prior users don’t have to pay full price!

  • http://www.danharper.me Dan Harper

    That video is awesome. The 3D pans and zooms are all done with CSS3. The video is just a normal video with no fancy effects. Hit the blackslash key to remove the mask around the video to see it all :)

    Tbh, if it doesn’t have a Vim mode, I probably won’t try it out. Maybe someone will release a plugin.

    • http://www.jeffrey-way.com Jeffrey Way
      Author

      Ditto.

  • http://daveismyname.com Dave

    As only a recent Mac user I never used Coda as I love Sublime Text 2, eager to give Code 2 a try out not sure I’ll make the switch but you never know… it does look good an inbuilt MySQL editor will be very useful indeed.

  • http://www.stevendsanders.com/ Steven D. Sanders

    It has always confused me that programs like Coda and Espresso are not available on Windows. I understand that it is probably a huge amount of work to port them, but I would think that it would be worth it to access a huge new customer base.

    • http://www.jeffrey-way.com Jeffrey Way
      Author

      Think it comes down to the size of the team, and a lack of expertise working on Windows/Linux based products. But I agree – that’s one of the best things about Sublime Text.

    • Ted

      What’s confusing about it? It takes a completely different set of skills/experience to code for Windows, and although it’s a huge base of users, many developers would rather focus on the platform with the tools they consider to be more developer friendly.

      Both Coda and Espresso are built with Cocoa, and there is no quick easy way to port from Cocoa to Windows. Both apps use a lot of technology that is Mac OS X specific, which would require an enourmous effort to recode for a platform like Windows.

    • Margalus

      That’s why i didn’t use Coda(i tried it) and i won’t use Coda 2.

      I hate when devs sticks to a specific OS with a success product. Yes the team can be small, the base(Cocoa) can be different but still Coda had a big success and they could pay someone to make a decent port of it.

      CCleaner ported to Mac recently, Sublime Text 2 is great(my editor of choice on both Mac and Win) and even though the first reason is that it’s so customizable and light the second one is that Sublime is cross-platform.

      What if i change OS tomorrow? No problem, i can have it on Windows, Mac and even my Ubuntu.
      Maybe i love cross-platform too much but i don’t accept that nowadays a success program can’t be ported to either one or the other OS.

  • http://www.jeffrey-way.com Jeffrey Way
    Author

    One thing is that, based upon the image of the editor above alone, I don’t think the editor is *that* attractive. Maybe I’ll change my mind once I use it.

  • http://www.codekiln.com/ Thomas Bates

    Looks nice, not sure I like the file preview thing it shows. I bought Coda, but found it to be too heavy, so I moved to Sublime Text 2. I’ve got so many plugins and such a good workflow at this point, I won’t be spending the money to go to Coda 2.

  • http://terencedevine.com Terence

    If you have Coda, will you have to purchase a new copy of Coda 2? or will they have an upgrade price? or will the upgrade be FREE?!?!

    Updates look great from the short video, and love the UI changes. Spiffy!

    • http://www.jeffrey-way.com Jeffrey Way
      Author

      Hey Terence – As I understand things, the upgrade cost will be $75.

      • Zach

        From their website…

        “How much is Coda 2?

        Coda 2 is a major, paid upgrade. For the first 24 hours, Coda 2 will be half off, at $49. After that, we will extend “upgrade pricing to everyone” for a limited period of time, making Coda 2 $75.

        If you bought Coda 1 after 4/10/2012, directly from us, you are entitled to a free upgrade. (Sorry, Apple does not provide a method to provide free upgrades to App Store purchasers.)”

        -Zach

  • Zach

    As one of the beta testers for Coda 2…

    I have to say I was extremely disappointed by the new interface. One of the things that I liked the most from Coda one was the simplicity, which this version does not have. I guess these things needed to be changed if you want to compete with Dreamweaver, but who uses that bloated monstrosity? There are only three features that I think are worth while and those are:
    Code folding (about time!)
    Auto complete for custom methods and such
    Built in MySQL interface

    Just my opinion, but I will not be purchasing the upgrade.

    • http://www.jeffrey-way.com Jeffrey Way
      Author

      What a shame.

      • Alistair

        lol

    • Fritz Lekschas

      As I really love Sequel and it’s even free I don’t see a built in MySQL interface as a big plus but maybe I’m wrong.
      It’s sad I really liked Coda 1 in the beginning but the new features and especially the interface doesn’t make me that curious to upgrade.

    • coja1

      “I have to say I was extremely disappointed by the new interface.”

      Me too — I just cannot get on with the new interface of Coda 2, was totally shocked / disappointed when I first saw it.

      For me Coda 2 won’t be part of my workflow.

    • http://lancealaughlin.com Lance

      I had the same thought about simplicity. I used to use Dreamweaver pretty exclusively because that’s what I learned on and mostly what was installed at work. Switching to (and using now) Coda made me feel like I lost all the distractions but the lack of features compared to Dreamweaver was a bit of a drawback.

      So now I feel like this version adds a lot of really cool features (They actually have a “full screen” mode..so that could take care of the “cramped” feeling). I like the idea of the tips section too. I’m a student right now and only recently started to really get into Javascript. So I still have to use a reference a lot to fully understand some of the code. Hopefully this makes a it a bit more streamlined for me.

      I’m hoping they’ll put out a demo first so I can give it a try before committing to the purchase.

    • Robert

      Ditto on the interface, its horrible!

      The new interface mixes files with the GUI icons that provide functionality. The sidebar should be on the left where it belongs. The ‘active path’ is way too cluttered…

      I could go on with whats wrong with Coda 2.

      Panic should have kept the same GUI and added the features we all craved.

      I might just have to look into Sublime Text 2 or another editor/IDE.

    • GrumpyMonkeyPants

      So you can hide the sidebar and turn the graphical tabs to just text. There is your Simplicity and its then practically like the original version except the path bar.

    • Thomas Bates

      Of all the things it touted in the video, the only thing that impressed me was the MySQL editor. Every other editor has had code folding for awhile, so they don’t get any cool points for finally adding it in a paid upgrade (that should have been a free fix to Coda 1 as far as I’m concerned).

      And the big, giant, Opera like visual tabs. There isn’t a feature I hate more. I would call that a hindrance. It seems like they want to rob me of any screen space possible, huge visual tabs on top, right sidebar for hints, left sidebar for files, bottom for status bar probably. That detracts focus.

      It’s my understanding that you can minimize the visual tabs, that doesn’t make them acceptable to me, unless you can deactivate them outright in a setting.

    • Margalus

      That’s exactly what i thought after seeing that screen on the top of the article.
      Coda had a really clean and fresh interface, this..what is this exactly? I don’t like it at all.

      Oh and also it may seem that i’m hating on Coda since i’ve released a lot of comments but trust me, i LOVED the first one..then i discovered Sublime Text 2 and i loved that, so there’s no way i’m gonna switch from that even more slim and cool editor to this weird interface.

  • http://www.punchyourface.com Adam

    I like how they assume you have an iPad, what if you would rather just have it display in another window on a duel-screen etc? I’ll stick with VIM.

    I also have no need for a visual mysql editor…

    • Sam

      How do you view result sets nicely. Thats literally the only reason that I like to us a mysql editor. No one I know who used mysql in any capacity builds their queries using a gui. They just type the statement into the query panel.

      • http://www.punchyourface.com Adam

        If you’re using the terminal etc you can run a query and it will spit out in a nice table. I’m not sure what stack you’re using but something like phpmyadmin has been around for ages…

    • Ted

      They don’t ‘assume you have an iPad’. Airview is a feature that you can choose to use or choose not use. You can still preview the same way you could in Coda 1.x if you like – either in the browser itself, or in a tabbed window.

      • http://www.punchyourface.com Adam

        ok, so it’s not really anything new if you have an ipad then. Awesome.

    • Lefteris

      Adam,
      You don’t know what you’re talking about, man. You may you don’t have an iPad but I do and Diet Coda is VERY useful. You just want to bash Coda without ever using it, but hey, that’s your problem.

  • benjamin

    There is a God.

    • http://plus.sulcalibur.com Suleiman Leadbitter

      Obviously

  • http://umren.in umren

    maybe it will catch up with espresso ;)

    live css editing sounds good, still they should add less/sass “live” editing.

  • http://www.creativemanner.com ozgur coruhlu

    plus1 to Espresso!

  • chris

    I bought coda on Thursday lol…

    • http://2816monument.com Mark

      Maybe they’ll have some mercy and give you a free upgrade. I’ve been in that situation before, bought a program a week before a major upgrade, and they did just that.

      One can hope…

      • http://lancealaughlin.com Lance

        You’re in luck:
        (from Coda’s FAQ page)

        If you bought Coda 1 very recently (after April 10, 2012) directly from us, you are entitled to a free upgrade. Unfortunately, Apple does not provide us a way to give free upgrades to all customers who purchased Coda 1 from the Mac App Store recently.

    • Ted

      Panic says that if you bought after April 10, 2012 you will get a free upgrade to Coda 2. http://panic.com/coda/support.html

  • Tomas

    Coda is like a playground for children :D

  • Ben

    … in the meantime, I’ve gotten really comfortable with my Sublime Text 2 / Transmit workflow. Coda 2 needs to really impress me to win me back …

    And Panic have to change the way they take care of Customers. Everyone asked and asked again for a piece of information, price plans, publishing date(year), etc. but what did panic … nothing. Not really smart if you dont know if you should buy coda or wait a few weeks for coda 2.

  • Jeremy

    Let’s just say that Sublime text will be VERY hard to beat

  • Chris

    I’ve been getting into VIM and Sublime Text 2. This new Coda 2 doesn’t have VIM support so it might as well be dead on arrival. I will probably buy it as its only 50 bucks but yeah between sublime text 2 and VIM…I was hoping Panic would have the Best of VIM and Sublime….eek!

  • http://www.gustavoguichard.com/ Gustavo Guichard

    Maybe is not gonna be the best editor on Mac but, have you guys seen the Diet Coda App for iPad? That App made me hopeful on iPad development!

  • http://www.themer.me Norris

    I didn’t buy Coda 1 because they had no automatic matching bracket highlighting. Didn’t look like they have it now. I even submitted a ticked asking for it. How can you NOT have matching highlighting.
    Although I think this is going to be interesting and I’ll certainly try it out, and from the screenshots I see, the GUI looks very nice (a little cluttered, but nice) – I doubt that I’ll be a convert.

    p.s. I don’t think that anything can beat Sequel Pro at the moment, yes, even an “in code” MySQL editor, unless it offers me some magic as jumping around with queries that I write in code or some other type of magic helpers.

  • Hamid

    FTW Aptana & SublimeText

  • Luca

    Can’t wait

  • Lalrinfela

    My only problem with Coda 1, is the file navigation and vertical text indentation notation missing and auto completion of custom functions and words. Other than this i had no problem. Regarding the Sql interface, well its a good addition but i think Oracle SqlDeveloper is good enough for me already. No reason to upgrade. I will still stick with Sublime Text.

  • http://www.attilakerekes.com Attila Kerekes

    Looks good, but i would like more php/js debugger and less “Retina-Ready”…

  • Gareth Hall

    Finally!!! But to little to late Panic! I loved Coda and have been a real supporter for a new version of Coda for a long time. I actually made several post on their blog, even sent them several emails. But they just took to long and truth be told I sort of lost a little faith in Panic (when it comes to Coda anyway). It simply took to many years for them to update their product thus I am concerned ….. when will they push version 3? (It could be many many years if history is any gauge) and I do not want to wait that long.

    I am a proud user of Sublime Text 2 and it rocks!!

    Sorry Panic I am not changing.

  • http://www.marketpense.com Munib

    Looking forward to it!

  • http://Gaspyweb.com Renzo Gaspary

    Any idea if it has theme management? I always switch between 3 code coloring themes and coda always was a pain to do this.

  • Luca Orio

    my god the UI is horrible o.O

  • https://github.com/js-coder Florian

    I hate the fact that Panic still ignores Linux. :(

    • Ted

      That’s because they are an exclusive developer of Mac OS X tools. They don’t make Windows apps either.

  • http://www.techjot.com TechJot

    To me, it’s not as impressive…would wait for TextMate 2 to show up and see what’s up there on their sleeves and then take the wallet out…in the mean time I’m a happy camper with Sublime Text 2 :)

  • Aysh

    Wow! I was tried Espresso in the past but there was no auto indentation/closing brackets or am i missing something?

  • Matt

    Well, I for one am very excited! I’ve been a loyal Coda user for over 2 years now, and nothing is faster for the way I work.

    The new interface is a bold change, but perhaps I’ll get used to it. I’m going to miss the sidebar file navigation.

    The built in MySQL editor will save me so much time without having to go back and forth between PhpMyAdmin and Coda! The gradient and color pickers will come in handy as well!

    • pierlo

      fwiw you should be using sequel pro dude!!!

  • Jermaine

    Any change they will also please a windows version too.

  • Ted

    I suspect most of the Sublime Text Editor users poo-poo’ing Coda 2 will reconsider once the STE devs start enforcing the license requirement (at $59 each).

    STE is a very good editor that is coming along nicely, and if cross platform usage is something you are after, it’s probably the best editor available for all 3 platforms at the moment.

    However, Coda 2 is more than just an editor. It’s an IDE, and it encompasses several tools in one. (FTP/SFTP client, Terminal, Editor, CSSEditor, MySQL Editor, Books, Version Control System). Comparing the two editors isn’t exactly apples to apples.

    • http://www.themer.me Norris

      Although I’m not quite pooing on Coda 2…

      I bought Sublime Text 2, just because I love the software, and as a developer, I understand
      that everyone needs to make some money somehow, right ? 59$ for such great editor really isn’t that much.
      Also, I already have my FTP, Terminal, Editor, MySQL, and documentation is available online anyway. If in any day, a new MySQL or a FTP client shows up, I am never going to be tied to the previous one. I can just try the new one out.

      So, that being said –
      People are pooing on Coda 2 because of the text editor option in Coda. You would never buy Coda, just to get the MySQL and FTP manager, would you ? Especially for 100$ (not talking about the release price here).
      The code editor from the..well…editor…is the most important part, where most of the time is spent, why not make it robust like Sublime Text.

      I can’t speak for everyone, but I’d rather have a tool, that does one thing, and does that thing very well, instead of doing everything somewhat okay.

      Although I still miss the remote FTP Option from Coda 1, when I’m in ST2, but that was something I was willing to sacrifice.
      Nevertheless, I will definitely try out Coda, maybe it changes my mind :)

      • http://gary.cheeseman.me.uk Gary Cheeseman

        You should try http://wbond.net/sublime_packages/sftp a brilliant FTP package for Sublime Text 2 :)

      • http://gary.cheeseman.me.uk Gary Cheeseman

        I also purchased Sublime Text 2 for $59 and $16 for the SFTP package, in my opinion they are totally worth spending the money on.

      • André

        Not sure I would say SFTP for ST2 is brilliant…
        I couldn’t get the thing going at all and it didn’t seem to be very intuitive, certainly not comparable with Coda’s built-in FTP.

        Having said that I do love ST2 and it will take me a lot to go back to Coda now that I’ve got ST playing nicely with Transmit

      • Lefteris

        SFTP for Sublime is buggy.
        So is Sublime 2 itself. Also its interface(?) comes directly from the early days of computing, but it’s free and open. That’s the main reason people is using it.

  • http://sdbwebsolutions.com Serg

    Nice!!! even if I really like Sublime Txt2, I’ll give Coda a chance. Its first version was very impressive a that time. It comes now with this iPad feature!

  • Aestrro

    Wait… I think I’m getting this. If I remember correctly, Coda was the better browser until Espresso 2 and it barely beat Coda (by a very small margin). I’ve already moved from Textmate to Sublime Text 2. I’ll never fully leave Sublime Text 2 without a good bet, though I’ll use Coda and Sublime Text 2.

    But like most relationships gone wrong – love isn’t 1-sided and I’ll drop Coda like an overcooked waffle if it sucks on this product in the kitchen.

  • http://meetalatina.com/ den

    i’ll most check this out .

  • Alistair

    Is it just me or does anyone else fail massively creeped out with the two minute “Code Tour” video?

    • pierlo

      lol i felt the same, the creepy background music and the too-relaxed almost collapsed voiceover gave me a strange feeling

      • Alistair

        Sorry to hear you were creeped out but in a weird way I feel warm inside again. lol

  • http://www.vadimbrodsky.com Vadim Brodsky

    Do you know if there is going to be a trial version of Coda 2? Direct download from their site?

    Would like to play with it before buying.

  • Saad Salman

    New improvements are welcome but I dislike the new tab interface. I expected better from Panic (I mean they transmit is one of the sexiest piece of software I’ve ever used). And those vertical close widgets!.

    I’ll give it try though for the love I have for panic.

    • Alistair

      You would think they tried to copy “The Ribbon” in any Microsoft Office product which was overused and ultimately trimmed down.

      Never used a Mac really so can’t really comment, but it sounds like the people at Panic really alienated their fanbase.

  • Ahsan Sharafuddin

    Like many, I’ve gotten used to Sublime Text 2 during the wait. The UI enhancements also scares me a little bit, as it may be indicative of loss of simplicity. I’m still cautiously optimistics. Will see!

  • Ahsan Sharafuddin

    Benjamin: What does Coda release have to do with whether there’s a god or not?

  • http://demetriad.co.uk Chris Demetriad

    Come on, I do not dislike it that much, it can’t be that bad! I am going to try it, I am quite curious to be honest although Sublime Text 2 is simply.. Sublime :).

  • Tony

    I am really disappointed, been waiting forever for this and I really don’t like it, anyways I have sublime pimped and sticking with it, there are so many plugins for it and more to come =]

  • http://gary.cheeseman.me.uk/ Gary Cheeseman

    Looks quite interesting, but during the wait I’ve got into Sublime Text 2 and I’ll be sticking with that.

  • Andrew Scofield

    Psst… Its on the app store already: http://goo.gl/N75ly

    I guess not even Panic can set a release on the app store. Its just out when apple approves it.